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Even if you can use a VPN to log into and play at an online casino successfully, please be aware that making withdrawals from your casino account can still be extremely problematic. You may have to jump through more hoops to get back your money.

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wildgoe

Hey guys,
I'm planning on spending some time in Turkey, where gambling is highly regulated. I've made a research and came to a conclusion, that the only secure way to access online gambling sites is by using VPN (virtual private network). In more detail, you can route your internet connection through a server in your country, or a country with more permissive laws (such as US). This means that you can then access online websites without being blocked because of your location.
The question is - have you ever used VPN for gambling online? Any recommendations regarding VPN provider?
The most recommended (according reddit + comparitech + proprivacy) are NordVPN and ExpressVPN. The first one is much more cheaper (with extra3y coupon ~2 bucks) and the other one ~8 bucks...
Will be waiting for your recommendations!

AxelWolf

Using a VPN may very well may gain you access to the site, however, if they have specific rules about using VPN's I'm pretty sure that they can tell if you are using a VPN if they look into it. You dont want them free rolling you on a non payment AFTER THE FACT. Using a server would probably work, but I dont think that's 100% foolproof. There is also something about making sure you clear your cookies and if they DL anything on your computer they can detect VPN programs and other things.

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I too am very interested in knowing an 'easy' foolproof way to completely change your location without them knowing you are doing so. I have asked a few people who know about this sort of stuff and they didnt seem to have a good answers that would solve my puzzle without going though some complicated expensive procedures.

if there is anyone who knows a significant amount about this kinda stuff please PM me. Depending on the information and situation I am willing to pay a little if somome can help me solve some issues.

♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

wildgoe

Thanks for your answer, AxelWolf.

BigDad

I am also interested in this issue, if someone answers you, I will be glad to buy this information too. Thanks

Gandler

I don't know the laws in Turkey, but having spent time in countries that strictly prohibit gambling (and even block this site from their internet), I will say this is most likley highly illegal and not worth the risk.
Also, it is illegal stateside to pretend to be in a states boundries to play on a state sanctioned casino. For example if I wanted to play an NJ online casino (pretty much the only online casinos I trust), I have to be within NJ state lines on my phone or laptop, and if I use a VPN to fool the GIS system, that can lead to huge fines (not to mention automatic forfeiture of any winnings....)
In my opinion, not worth the risk, both from the Turkey law side and the stateside law side....
But, of you did want to proceed it would probably be best to do it via private messages, because there are a forum rules against encouraging the breaking of state and Federal laws, (or at least there were, with all of the changes, who knows now....)

MDawg

It depends on whether the site in question has the technology to blow through the VPN and 'see' your actual IP address, also whether the site in question has the means to detect whether you are using a VPN. There is easy technology available for site holders to address both of these. If yes to either of these, and they wish to eliminate VPN log ons, then VPN will not work for you.
There are some proxies that are immune to one or both of these.
There is a LOT more to this, I have written dozens of pages on the subject of proxies but for obvious reasons have not posted any of it publicly.

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heatmap

Ive recently been banned from online gaming in my jurisdiction, even though i have never spent a cent gaming. Trust me when I tell you, if a VPN is online, which it is, and it is a business, which it is, they only have a range of IP addresses, and it is not much extra work to quantify and 'blacklist' IP addresses that belong to VPNs. Its trivial. Technology is too fast and can out think you or anyone. If you are caught using anything like VPN, and its in there rules like AxelWolf said, keep in mind they most likely will keep your money as well.
edit i should clarify I WAS NOT USING A VPN, but something called a VIRTUAL MACHINE. which is not actually stated in anyone's rules to be illegal to use while gambling online

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Gandler

Exactly, do not do it.
Yes it can be done if you know what you are doing.
But, most likely you will be caught, and you will lose your winnings (and not be given your losses), and possibly fined, if a state finds out....
If Turkey finds out, it can likely be much worse...…
I quickly found this on wiki (so take it for what it is worth), but it sounds highly risky if they want to make an example of you:
'Online gambling in Turkey is currently prohibited, with the exception of the state-owned sports betting company, IDDAA, which is the only Turkish entity that is allowed to offer internet gambling services. The law that prohibits online gambling in Turkey was passed in 2007 and recently, Turkey has also been taking measures to prevent players from using foreign internet gambling websites as well. Despite the ban on gambling, many Turkish players continue to bet on online gambling sites and are recognized as leading gamblers. In 2013 Turkish government issued the law by which Turkey has become the first country in the world to target individual players instead of gambling operators. Sanctions for anyone caught in Turkey to access online gambling services is a penalty of between £ 100 and £ 500 (about $ 55-278). Casino operators dealing with the Turkish market and bankers serving them can also face the prison conditions at the same time.'
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_in_Turkey (Online Gambling Section).

gordonm888

edit i should clarify I WAS NOT USING A VPN, but something called a VIRTUAL MACHINE. which is not actually stated in anyone's rules to be illegal to use while gambling online

Was it a robot? I believe you would not be the first person to do that.

So many better men, a few of them friends, were dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things lived on, and so did I.

AxelWolf

Was it a robot? I believe you would not be the first person to do that.

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nor the first person to get their account shut down for doing so.

GGPoker Ambassador Daniel Negreanu has made his personal views on VPNing perfectly clear in a recent podcast.

On the latest episode of The Orbit, a round-table discussion hosted by Cardplayer Lifestyle's Robbie Strazynski, Negreanu stated that he 'didn't give a crap' where players were located, as long as they were who they said they were.

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Negreanu was joined on The Orbit by Run It Once Poker founder Phil Galfond, partypoker Partner Rob Yong and the former managing director of the Microgaming Poker Network (MPN) Alex Scott.

During the episode, the panel discussed the role of regulation in poker, and whether regulation is a barrier to how online poker should run.

Negreanu said that the obvious goal for online poker is for everyone to play against one another, but made some interesting comments about VPNing.

What is a VPN?

A Virtual Private Network is a tool that enables you to mask your internet protocol (IP) address, giving you online privacy and anonymity.

Many people use this to watch shows on Netflix that they are unable to in their country, but more importantly for this conversation poker players can use this in order to conceal their location.

Poker sites have repeatedly stated that the use of a VPN is against their terms of service, with 2018 World Championship of Online Poker (WCOOP) champion 'wann2play' was stripped of their title and $1.35 million in prize money due to 'multi-accounting/ghosting' and use of a VPN.

Negreanu's Views

This isn't the first time that Negreanu has spoken out on the ethics of using a VPN in order to play poker from a country where it is not allowed.

On this occasion, he referred back to his time as a PokerStars ambassador in his views on this topic, saying that he found it difficult to understand why PokerStars spent so much money and resources trying to catch people 'VPNing', or playing from countries they're not supposed to.

'I've said this [before],' Negreanu went on. 'I personally don't give a crap where you're playing from as long as it's you. It doesn't bother me.'

'I personally don't give a crap where you're playing from as long as it's you'

Negreanu posed a hypothetical where Senegal banned Apple products, and whether or not it would be up to Apple to police whether people were using an iPhone or an iPad in that country.

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'I don't think it makes a lot of sense for the companies to police in these cases when the rule is stupid in the first place. It doesn't make sense to us to spend resources to enforce that [...] If that's an issue in your country, then you police it.'

The poker Hall of Famer then clarified that it's most poker companies' policy that you're not allowed to do 'any of that stuff,' but reiterated his views on it.

'Do I think it makes sense personally to spend a lot of resources trying to catch these people? I don't. I don't have a problem with it.'

What do the Sites Say About VPNs?

Here's what the Terms & Conditions of the three major poker websites - GGPoker, partypoker and PokerStars - have to say about the use of a VPN:

GGPoker

GGPoker are the only one to explicitly mention VPNs in their T&Cs. Under section 15 of GGPoker's Security & Ecology Agreement it clearly states:

'GGPoker strictly prohibits users located in prohibited jurisdictions to use VPN/PROXY, remote desktops, or any alternative methods to mask their true location.

Should we determine that users are accessing GGPoker from prohibited countries, we may restrict their use of VPN/Proxy, or suspend the account and request Proof of Presence (“POP”).'

partypoker

There is no explicit mention of the term 'VPN' in the partypoker General Terms and Conditions. However, under section 2 it states:

'You may only use the Facilities if You are 18 years of age or over (or such other higher minimum legal age in Your jurisdiction) and it is legal for You to do so according to the laws that apply in Your jurisdiction.'

In section 6 of the same document it goes on to state:

'We forbid the use of all unfair practices when using the Facilities.'

PokerStars

There is no explicit mention of the term 'VPN' in the PokerStars End User License Agreement. However, under section 5 it states:

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'The Stars Group (TSG) prohibits persons located in (including temporary visitors) or residents of certain jurisdictions (including jurisdictions where persons are required to play according to the regulations in such jurisdiction, using the appropriately designated, licensed game client) from making deposits into their Stars Accounts or engage in Real Money Games.

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'Any attempt to circumvent the restrictions on play by any persons located in a Prohibited Jurisdiction, is a breach of this Agreement. An attempt at circumvention includes, but is not limited to, manipulating the information used by TSG to identify your location and providing TSG with false or misleading information regarding your location or place of residence. Any such attempt will entitle us to take such steps as we deem appropriate including, without limitation, seizing the funds in your Stars Account.'

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